SCS - concave spacer

Has anyone tried the scs? what's its effect?

kapareho lang ba to nung sa madbull fish bone hop adjustment knob o mas maganda ang scs?
kasi sa madbull ata kinuha ni shredder yung concept ng scs. sa pagkakaalam ko mas gumaganda ang lapat ng hop rubber sa bb kaya mas effective yung hop rubber.

I think mastah rambo and malloski has a DIY version of the SCS in FAS you can look for it there.

I believe this makes the BBs fly straighter because instead of just one knob for the hop up to work, you have one on each side.

aktuali, around the upper half of the bb -- if done right.

Gamit ko yun madbull knob pero not their black hop rubber kasi i try installing it sa 2 guns and hindi maganda lipad ng BB so balik ako sa guarder hop rubber.

Question:

If the knob help widen the space for the BB to touch. Di ba yun BB round so tip lang tatama, so bakit kailangan lakihan?

^ komrad naman sumasakit ulo ko sa tanung mo hehehe!
baka para lang mas maganda ang grip ng hop rubber sa bb, kumbaga mas maganda lang yung hawak sa bb para mas maganda yung pitik palabas ng barrel.

interesting concept komrad pero sa mga naka try kamusta yung effect nya sa bb flight? my nagsabi din na dag2x fps, paano xa makakadagdag fps?

ako rin, kom Han$, parang nalilito rin ako.

eniwey. . .

the theory is, mas maganda haplos sa bb nung half-moon shape ng H, fishbone, or shark nub, as komrad trebor said.

however, note that pag matigas ang bucking, hindi masyadong natutulak nung nub so at certain settings eh diretso pa rin ang porma nung parte ng bucking na lalapat sa bb. try it, komrads, push the nub down and look through the chamber (or take a pic).

this is why, i think, some peeps like komrad stan of 1AD, get good enough results with ordinary nubs and standard buckings that they have sanded a bit. numinipis ung bucking. nagiging mas pliant.

i know that mastah rambo has reported very good groupings with his AHNE and a standard bucking, IIRC. the institutional wisdom, however, is that you should use a specific bucking for a particular type of nub. mas pliant, mas maganda. probly why using the stock ACM bucking works well (kya lang, madali syang maupud )

this is the reason, probly, why some have experienced mixed results with their H nubs -- you also have to tune the bucking to the nub.

dagdag konti fps, kom SE, dahil napipigil ung bb until the very highest pressure (remember: mas sapo ng bucking ung bb kaya mas pigil ang pagalpas nya) when the bucking cannot hold the bb back anymore. theoretically and provided, siempre, that you have the proper balance between the spring, the cylinder volume, and the inner barrel volume.

pamparami ba ng sakit ng ulo, komrads?

Pasensya na komrads ako din naguluhan nun binasa ko ulit..

Komrad ZT,

Oo in certain setting flat ang lumalabas sa bucking. tsaka sa madbull hindi half moon shape lumalabas parang tulad lang din nun stock nub.

Like you mention good result sa stock bucking paano na for aftermarket bucking?

sakli, kom Han$. tuning ang critical -- as always.

pag aftermarket bucking. subukan mo ibang klaseng material for the nub. may mga prospek yata na ibang klaseng material si mastah rambo. tahimik eh. most probably may linuluto na naman un, if i know him well

me ideya din ako to minimize the friction between the bb and the bucking pero hindi ko pa maimplement kulang oras

Komrad ZT,

Kakaingit si masta rambo at maraming nilulutong tweak.

I tried the Madbull bucking ( black ) and i can't get good result kahit yun stock nob pa naka kabit.. hehehehe but with guarder + madbull nob maganda lipad pero will still do more field testing.

http://www.madbullairsoft.com/doc/Ma...20bucking2.jpg

distributed daw properly yung pag diin nga SCS sa little protruding thing sa hop rubber kaya it takes the shape of the bbs's, cguro pag tiningnan lng natin na hindi naka lapat yung bbs sa protruding thing scuro normal xa then pag nagpress na yung SCS sa protruding thing ng hop rubber baka doon nya natetake yung shape ng bb's...what do u thinj mga bossing? kuha ako to try it...hehehe..im not sure if my opinion is correct...basta baka lng nmn eh...padagdag gulo lng...

http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread...?t=30459&page=6

pero sa tingin ko mas ok yung performance ng SCS kesa sa madbull fishbone kasi yung sa SCS made of hard plastic ata compared dun sa madbull na made of rubber. kaya siguro kapag yung madbull fishbone ay ginamit sa mas matigas na hop rubber indi na rin sya ganun kaeffective kasi yung dulo ng pa-x na ay nagbebend unlike sa SCS solid pa rin...dun siguro nagkatalo yung dalawa kaya mas may advantage yung SCS.

magandang combination to sa 6.01 tight barrel. hehehehe!

kung element ang paguusapan, hay nako ala akong tiwala dun sa h-shape na knob nya.

konting pino lang, komrad . . . .

the rubber might look like that without the bb . . . . pag hindi tama ang softness ng bucking.

imagine the bb sitting under a bucking that's hard enough to resist curving under the pressure of the SCS or H nub.

when more pressure is applied by the nub, the rubber stretches and exerts more pressure at the top of the bb, especially when the middle of the nub is already in contact with the bucking. this makes the pressure on the bb uneven and also increases the friction on the bb. thereby also decreasing fps.

hard to believe? try stretching a piece of a toy balloon (or a condom) or a thick rubber band over your finger or your palm.

could be wrong dahil wala pang makapagbigay sa 'kin nung original SCS link at ung reported results nya but i imagine it works best with ACM buckings and/or soft aftermarket buckings.

komrad,

Hindi advisable hard nob kasi possible BB jam kaya rubber nob gamit as stock lalo na sa guarder 70%.

You can check the nob pag baklas mo ng hop assembly if kung talagang half monn shape or just plain straight. syempre after mo makuha best setting/range ng bb mo dun natin malalaman.

Sino meron SCS?

Calling komrad symon sabi mo meron ka?