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H a n s- 06-05-2008
komrad,

OT pwede gawin test gun M4??. hindi pwede ak coz maganda na talaga flight/range nyan.

now pag napatino M4 range/flight then possible effective nga.. rolleyes.gif

zenTaurus- 06-06-2008
ha ha ha . . . puede siguro gawing guinea pig. kya lang iba mekanismo ng armashite hop adjustment. but ubra na siguro for general testing filakairsoft/icon_t_lol.gif

trebor- 06-06-2008
hahaha! filakairsoft/icon_t_lol.gif talagang bida ang mga AK ah... pang experiment lang ang M4 parang sidekick lang.

gusto ko nga pagawa kay komrad edgi ng ak length 6.02 tight bore barrel tapos naka SCS, tignan ko lang kung indi maging deretso ang flight ng BB ko.
ewan ko nga lang kung ok lang yung 6.02 kasi halos lahat naka 6.03...
ewan ko bahala na pero ganun gagawin ko.

H a n s- 06-06-2008
QUOTE (trebor @ June 06, 2008 04:06 pm)
hahaha! filakairsoft/icon_t_lol.gif talagang bida ang mga AK ah... pang experiment lang ang M4 parang sidekick lang.

gusto ko nga pagawa kay komrad edgi ng ak length 6.02 tight bore barrel tapos naka SCS, tignan ko lang kung indi maging deretso ang flight ng BB ko.
ewan ko nga lang kung ok lang yung 6.02 kasi halos lahat naka 6.03...
ewan ko bahala na pero ganun gagawin ko.

komrad,

Maganda yan project mo go... go... go...

Kung talgang effective yun new design nob then by all means dapat magkaroon din ako hehehehe biggrin.gif

symon- 06-08-2008
komrad hans, ito according lang sa findings ko:

- used edgi 6.04 407mm length, TM M4, .2 ksc BBs, ca hop rubber
- nag linis muna ako ng barrel tapos used orig hop buckling then test, tapos linis ulit tapos used scs.
- major difference: accuracy/consistency
- mas naging effective yun hop
- range lumayo konti pero tingin ko dahil mas consistent at effective yun hop
- o nga pala, tested this also on JG ak tactical with stock barrel and china hop rubber: same findings, pero range didn't change, tingin ko mas consistent lipad ng BB talaga pero di necessarily lumalayo range, maganda lang din talaga ak! hehe
- note plinking lang testing ko hindi actual game, so malamang maiba pa ito pag game na talaga



GO Lakers! hehe.

st_elmo- 06-09-2008
meron na ako mga komrad, tried it on my m4 Ssystem using stock barrel and stock hop rubber lng...gumanda accuracy ng m4 ko the grouping improved and the range also improved...notice ko parang lumakas fps ko cguro sa pag seal ko lng when i return the hop rubber sa barrel, na na mang help ung nub sa fps ata eh...pero i can say na working xa and the SCS gave my m4 accuracy of a tight barrel at a cheaper cost...imagine P200 lng my TB effect na xa...try nyo lng mga comrad to believe its effects

H a n s- 06-09-2008
Hmmm must try.. biggrin.gif

arcteryx- 06-09-2008
i tried it with my cyma aks74u, stock barrel with 130 spring... groupings improved and and flight was more stable.. and i'm just using goldeball 0.20... hehehhe filakairsoft/clap.gif

H a n s- 06-10-2008
Out of curiosity and low budget tska looking for tweaks for our beloved AK or any AEG. So made myself one just for testing purpose only. not sure though if i got the right shape but with masta rambo's pix mukhang pareho. tska P150 vs madbull 300 ( hop rubber + nob ) hmmmm hanap ako best cheap solution.

1st tried the madbull nob set the hop to the longest range without the BB flying up and got a good range and grouping for 60 to 70 human steps ang layo, BB flight was straight and grouping was almost as big as a 14inch mags/tire.. then i install my home made nob made of alambre ( sampayan ) hehehe set the hop tapos ayon naubos na BB ko hahahhaha.. bukas ulit at bibili ako ng BB. pero mukhang pareho din range sa madbull nob sa 1st 5 BB bago naubos hehehehe

balitaan ko kayo ulit. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

btw after got the right hop setting binaklas ko gun to check the shape inside kung mag half moon shape and notice hindi naman nag half moon at flat straight shape lang pareho itsura ng stock, madbull and my home made nob.


ito pala gamit ko

gun - RK03
Prom tight barrel 6.04, 534mm ata.
pdi190 - 410 to 416 on .25g sa Guarder chrono.

st_elmo- 06-10-2008
mga komrad, try nyo lng yung SCS akala ko dati d realistic and achievable pero ngayun im a believer! hehehehe! installed it on my non-AK and my AK..... biggrin.gif u will see d difference specially if naka stock barrel ka then my SCS para nagiging tb, its my own opinion lng guys ha...hehehe...nag order ako ulit 4pcs kita ng mga friends ko sabay pabili din sila...

zenTaurus- 06-10-2008
notice any difference in fps, kom hans?

H a n s- 06-10-2008
QUOTE (zenTaurus @ June 11, 2008 08:28 am)
notice any difference in fps, kom hans?

Komrad ZT,

No difference in reading ganun pa din.. pero some what same performance with madbull
baka i stay with madbull since meron na ko at nagamit ko na last weekend and very happy with the range and grouping. as for my home made wanabe will try to field test it this weekend to be sure. smile.gif

H a n s- 06-11-2008
Meron na ko BB (.2 ksc ) so went to installed again my home made concave nob. test fired half a mag i notice much better accuracy on single shot but with full/burst mode typical and tulad ng lipad ng tight barrel. Range and fps is the same.


st_elmo- 06-11-2008
stock barrel plus concave hop nub = tb effect on bb flight accuracy?

para sa mga sanay sa stock barrel then nalagyan ng concave hop nub, makikita talaga ang difference on my part iba talaga yung difference parang tb na ng friend ko yung effect...hehehe...


H a n s- 06-12-2008
komrad symon,

Pssst bili mo nga ako isa.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif field test ko this weekend SCS.

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