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chicane- 11-07-2007
Thanks po kom zT! Eto po request nyo smile.gif

-- magaan/mabigat?
Ayos lang, pero magaan xia kesa sa ineexpect ko, which is very good!

-- madali/mahirap ituro sa target tango? bakit?
Madali lang kase para sakin hindi gano mabigat and maiksi kasi, nung nasa baguio
ako naka higa lang ako sa trench walang problema mang ambush kase short barrel
tapos naka fold pa yung stock smile.gif *Problema lang talaga pag hindi ka sanay sa iron sights ng AK, mahirap talaga i sight yung kalaban using AK iron sights compared to M4 variants*

-- maganda/pangit ang lapat sa balikat? anu sana dapat?
Maganda!!! Feeling ko nasa metal gear ako lol!!!

-- madali/mahirap kalabitin ang trigger? bakit? paano aayusin?
Madali lang, mahirap lang abutin yung trigger switch ng AK (Natural lang sa AK yon)

-- madali/mahirap makuha ang sight picture? bakit?
Overall para sakin medium rating ko; it's because of the AK style iron sights. Mga iba kong team-mates ayaw nila hiram bengbeng ko hindi nila mahanap ang zero ng sights lol!

-- maganda/pangit ang balanse? bakit?
Tama lang

-- madali/mahirap magpalit ng mag? bakit?
Madaling madaling madali!!! May natutunan ako sa youtube kung pano mag ultra-fast mag-change for AK eh hehehe. Natural na madaling mag palit ng mag sa mga AK variants.

-- misfeed? failure to feed? double feed? triple feed?
Yung stock terrible yung feeding nya!!! Kailangang i sand paper yung hop chamber sa loob kase masyadong masikip.

-- mahina/malakas ang batt?
I never used the stock battery

-- matibay/mahina ang pagkakagawa? ang power? ang rof?
1.)Matibay pwera lang sa front sight, na dapa ako sa baguio nauna yung muzzle break tapos nag crack yung front sight. Fixed with bulldog superglue (man's best friend) lol.
2.) Power - Stock power 392 fps average, SP130 = 454 fps average
Pero nag downgrade ulit ako sa stock kase sa CQB hindi na nakakatawa yung 454 fps, ung binaril ko tumagos sa vest nya eh. Dinowngrade ko agad pag dating ko sa bahay.

-- anong upgrade ang unang gusto mong gawin? bakit?
Lahat ng laman ng gearbox. Kase ganun talaga ako eh :)hehehe

-- maganda/pangit ba ang full metal?
HULOG NG LANGIT!!!!

I hope this helps komrads!

*latest update pala sa bengbeng ko*
1.) Kagabi nasira stock sector gear ko kaka test sa ROF (using 11.1v 1300mah + stock spring wid washers) - Don't use too much washers, tumama sa spring guide yung washer kaya nag stock, tapos nainis ako pinag pipindot ko yung trigger hangang masira yung gear. Nasira nga tatlong ipin. X( Balik stu nanaman.

2.) Nasira na din kagabi yung sa butt ng motor cage kung saan ini-iscrew yung pistol grip. - fixed with superglue+cloth lol.

H a n s- 11-07-2007
komrad chicane,

Nice info.. regards to your problem i'm suspecting its the hop assembly and not the nozzle... have encounter problems also with boyi m4 line, initially i thought its more of alignment issue but for almost 5 hours wala pa rin so i tried to replace the whole hop assembly to (src brand) and to my surprise got the fps i wanted..

But i haven't try it with Kalash hindi pa ulet nababalik ni komrad mossad yun boyi nya for further experiments. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

zenTaurus- 11-07-2007
bilis ah, komrad. filakairsoft/aprub.gif

my sympathies on your probs, kom chicane. on the whole, your experence bears out the brittleness of boyi products. ung kalash ni kom vityaz eh basag na rin ung ibaba ng rear sight block. buti na lang kapit pa ung pin so hindi naapektuhan functionality nya rolleyes.gif

so advice to kalash owners -- konting ingat sa pagwasiwas ng mga luvs ninyo. it is not, in my experience, kasing tibay ng mga nakasanayan ninyo like JG and Cyma.

the solution i have found for hard sight pic acquisition is a proper cheek weld. try mo hanapin ung spot sa upper strut ng folding stock kung saan pag patong ng cheek mo eh gitna agad ang front sight blade at nasa edges ng rear sight leaf ang tenga ng front sight. once you find it, remember that spot and always use it. you might be surprised at your accuracy.

reminder: this spot is different for different beng2xs. and the cheek weld spot for a full butt is different from that on the folding stock models.

sounds complicated in words but easy as pie once you get it. biggrin.gif

kom hans, hindi kaya horizontal placement din ng hopup? pag wala kasi sa tamang puesto ung bucking (sometimes .5mm lang diperensya sad.gif ) misfeeds and leaks ang resulta.

chicane- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (H a n s @ November 08, 2007 11:20 am)
komrad chicane,

Nice info.. regards to your problem i'm suspecting its the hop assembly and not the nozzle...  have encounter problems also with boyi m4 line, initially i thought its more of alignment issue but for almost 5 hours wala pa rin so i tried to replace the whole hop assembly to (src brand)  and to my surprise got the fps i wanted..

But i haven't try it with Kalash hindi pa ulet nababalik ni komrad mossad yun boyi nya for further experiments. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Komrad hans,
ung sa nozzle po na sinasabi ko po komrad pag tinetest ko po compression ng: Cylinder, Cylinder head, Piston wid piston head. I tutulak ko po yung piston into the cylinder tapos tatakpan ko po yung nozzle ng cylinder head, wala pong airleak, pero pag nilagay ko na yung CA nozzle dun po medyo may airleak na po xia. And regarding the hop-assembly po pinalitan ko ng stock JG dragunov hop assembly hehe.

Komrad zT,
Wow ang ganda ng handguard!! Stock po ba ng CM.035 yan? biggrin.gif Gusto ko yung ganyang style ng handguard eh!! biggrin.gif

- Nalito po ako komrad dun sa advice mo about the sighting lol!!! try ko mamaya kung ma break ko da-vinci code mo hehehe tnx po!

zenTaurus- 11-07-2007
ha ha ha, RS un biggrin.gif

kaya yan sa boyi pag laminated plywood ang material.

chicane- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (zenTaurus @ November 08, 2007 11:49 am)
ha ha ha, RS un biggrin.gif

kaya yan sa boyi pag laminated plywood ang material.

lol kaya pala ang ganda!

H a n s- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (zenTaurus @ November 08, 2007 11:44 am)

kom hans, hindi kaya horizontal placement din ng hopup? pag wala kasi sa tamang puesto ung bucking (sometimes .5mm lang diperensya sad.gif ) misfeeds and leaks ang resulta.

possible din... pero i notice parang hindi lapat ng mabuti yun labi ng hop rubber sa loob ng assembly kaya leak agad.. will do more experiment pag balik ng kalash ni komrad mossad. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

chicane- 11-07-2007
kom hans,

kung kailangan pong mag palit ng hop assembly, ano po yung ma-aadvice nyong magandang brand? tnx po

H a n s- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (chicane @ November 08, 2007 11:46 am)

Komrad hans,
ung sa nozzle po na sinasabi ko po komrad pag tinetest ko po compression ng: Cylinder, Cylinder head, Piston wid piston head. I tutulak ko po yung piston into the cylinder tapos tatakpan ko po yung nozzle ng cylinder head, wala pong airleak, pero pag nilagay ko na yung CA nozzle dun po medyo may airleak na po xia. And regarding the hop-assembly po pinalitan ko ng stock JG dragunov hop assembly hehe.


Ah ok.. umaalog ba nozzle up and down?? kung wala naman alog oks lang..

H a n s- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (chicane @ November 08, 2007 11:55 am)
kom hans,

kung kailangan pong mag palit ng hop assembly, ano po yung ma-aadvice nyong magandang brand? tnx po

Reliable na JG, cyma or kahit yun tig P400 China.. not a believer of metal type mahal hehehehe

zenTaurus- 11-07-2007
QUOTE (H a n s @ November 08, 2007 11:53 am)
possible din... pero i notice parang hindi lapat ng mabuti yun labi ng hop rubber sa loob ng assembly kaya leak agad.. will do more experiment pag balik ng kalash ni komrad mossad.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

sakli. ung din ang observation ko.

at preho tayo ng attitude sa metal hopup chamber, hindi kelangan cos the plastic version works just as well. wink.gif

QUOTE (chicane)
Nalito po ako komrad dun sa advice mo about the sighting lol!!! try ko mamaya kung ma break ko da-vinci code mo hehehe tnx po!

ha ha ha . . . walang code dyan. basic training ng rifleman wink.gif wink.gif

stock bucking on cyma & kalash working ok so far although the guarder krink has ung element 50%. ok din naman sya. should be ok for your fps range, maybe unsure.gif

Alencore Rambo- 11-11-2007
iilan din gumamit ng aks74u sa megaball.
ayun nakita ko yung cyma nito kaso plastic handguard
pa yung nakuha ng may ari.


chicane- 11-13-2007
komrads ano po ba talaga yung ID ng boyi aksun? May nag sasabi 6.08, ung iba sabi 6.04. Ano po kaya talaga? And balak ko po kasi bumili ng madbull 6.03 x 300mm, okaya 6.02 x 300mm kay komrad edgi, ano po ung advice ninyo? thank u po!

chicane- 11-13-2007
Wala palang 300mm x 6.03 ang madbull sad.gif i guess i'll just ask edgi to make me one. Mga komrad ano po ung masasabi nyo dun sa 6.02 x 300mm? Na subukan nyo na po ba? And ilang +fps po kya ang ibibigay ng 6.02 x300 and 6.03 x300? ty po!

zenTaurus- 11-14-2007
purpose mo, komrad? have not used them myself but i guess you know that TBs help give you better accuracy & range with some increase in fps.

it is not, however, AFAIK, reliable to equate TBs to fps increase -- that is only a byproduct. the central factor is always compression AND the alignment and stability of the connections between the nozzle, the hopup, and the barrel.

then, opkorps, the smaller the ID of your inner barrel, the more discriminating you have to be about bb quality and the cleanliness of your TB.

excellent ang reputation ni EDGI so many will say you cannot go wrong with EDGI TBs.

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